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Bruno

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21 Dec 2007 11:59 AM
Hello, I tried and install ArgoSoft Mail Server .Net Edition 1.0.3.9 on a Windows 2003 Server Web Edition. I have still got it in Evaluation Version, making sure everything's OK before Registering it (got a registered Mail Pro Server elsewhere that works fine )... My problem is that when adding a new user (in a domain that is in the _default domain group), I have got only the Inbox\ subdirectory. Not the usual subdirectory structure. And it actually prevents me from doing normal stuff like accessing from Web interface... Have I to create manually each missing subdirectory for each user? Any clue? Thanks a lot!

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22 Dec 2007 09:43 AM
bbertrand, No, the first time you log in via the web interface the folders are created automatically. You should be able to log in via the web interface. I just created a test account and tested your situation above. For the _Default Domain Group you only need the user name (example: TestUser1 ) and password. If it was a regular doman, then you would need to specifiy testuser1@yourdoman.com.

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02 Jan 2008 05:58 AM
Thanks a lot for your quick response, but I've just had a week off... Let me wish you a happy new year!! Actually when I log on the web application I've got the following message: Access to the path 'C:\Program Files\ArGo Software Design\ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET\\_users\_Default\bbertrand\Sent Items\' is denied. I tried and promoted ASP.NET user full rights over _users\ subdirectory but it had no effects. By the way I've got also: "Last Login: ???." (while the LastLoginDateTime column in the DataBase is not null!!) Any other ideas? Is it possible to activate traces in a log file? FYI my server is still in a Workgroup, not in a domain, because my domain is still managed by another registar. I want everything OK before transferring my domain.

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02 Jan 2008 09:21 AM
Do you have the latest version of the Web interface? Ensure that asp.net and Network Service user accounts have permissions on the webmail root folder (they will propagate down to the sub-folders). The permissios I have set are: Read and Execute List Folder Contents Read Also see http://www.argosoft.com/RootPages/M...oting.aspx

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Bruno

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02 Jan 2008 12:17 PM
Hi Steve, Yes I run the 1.0.3.9 web application. All users have the permissions you describe on the webmail root folder ('D:\Sites\Web\Intranet\WebMail') and on the MailServer's "Program Files" subdirectory ('C:\Program Files\ArGo Software Design\ArGoSoft Mail Server .NET\'). Following your URL, I created an "argomail" user with full permissions on both webmail and MailServer folders. I changed the web.config file, stopped and restarded the Web application. Now I've got: "Could not load file or assembly 'Argosoft.AbstractServices' or one of its dependencies. Access is denied." just after logging in. When I check, my "argomail" user has full right on the bin\ subfolder where this assembly is! Is it a problem with the .NET framework configuration? As a matter of fact, I don't have the Configuration menu in "Administrative tools" (there is only the .NET 1.1 Config). Everything seems OK with the SQL Server DataBase and with Mail Server Controller.

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02 Jan 2008 02:58 PM
I believe it required .NET 2.0. Try upgrading that, and reconfigure IIS to use .NET .20. The uses should not need permissions on the ArGo .NET or the Web Folder. Just the services. The services handle the security portion.

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03 Jan 2008 06:11 AM
Steve, you are very kind to keep helping me! Thanks a thousand times! In fact, I already have .NET 2.0 as it comes with Windows Server 2003. What I don't have is the Configuration MMC snap-in; if I remember well, it comes with the SDK. Anyway I got it! I had to grant Write permission to "NETWORK SERVICE" to the '_users\' folder. Don't you have something like that? Again, thanks a lot

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03 Jan 2008 08:54 AM
Bruno, Actually, No my permissions are different. I'm running Windows 2003 Server SP2 with Active directory. (BTW I used the Windows Resource Kit tool showacls to generate these listing): Here are my ArGo Mail Permissions: C:\Program Files\ArGo Software Design\ArGoSoft Mail Server .Net NT AUTHORITY\Authenticated Users Special Access [RX] BUILTIN\Server Operators Special Access [RWXD] BUILTIN\Administrators Special Access [A] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Special Access [A] CREATOR OWNER Special Access [A] C:\Program Files\ArGo Software Design\ArGoSoft Mail Server .Net\_dbtmp NT AUTHORITY\Authenticated Users Special Access [RX] BUILTIN\Server Operators Special Access [RWXD] BUILTIN\Administrators Special Access [A] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Special Access [A] CREATOR OWNER Special Access [A] C:\Program Files\ArGo Software Design\ArGoSoft Mail Server .Net\_logs NT AUTHORITY\Authenticated Users Special Access [RX] BUILTIN\Server Operators Special Access [RWXD] BUILTIN\Administrators Special Access [A] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Special Access [A] CREATOR OWNER Special Access [A] C:\Program Files\ArGo Software Design\ArGoSoft Mail Server .Net\_outbox NT AUTHORITY\Authenticated Users Special Access [RX] BUILTIN\Server Operators Special Access [RWXD] BUILTIN\Administrators Special Access [A] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Special Access [A] CREATOR OWNER Special Access [A] C:\Program Files\ArGo Software Design\ArGoSoft Mail Server .Net\_users NT AUTHORITY\Authenticated Users Special Access [RX] BUILTIN\Server Operators Special Access [RWXD] BUILTIN\Administrators Special Access [A] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Special Access [A] CREATOR OWNER Special Access [A] And The folders for my Web Folder: X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\App_Code BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\App_Data BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\App_Themes BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\App_Themes\DefaultTheme BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\Auth BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\Auth\MailDisplay BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\Auth\OutAtt BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\bin BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\Controls BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\GroupAdmin BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\Images BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX] X:\InetPub\ArGoWebMail\WebMail\ServerAdmin BUILTIN\Administrators Full Control [ALL] TCC\ASPNET Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\INTERACTIVE Read [RX] TCC\IUSR_COLUMBIA Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK Read [RX] NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM Full Control [ALL] NT AUTHORITY\NETWORK SERVICE Read [RX]

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03 Jan 2008 08:59 AM
Bruno, As a follow up. For .NET 2.0, you sould be able to select that from the IIS Manager Console. Select the site, right click properties, click he ASP .NET tab and select 2.0.xxx from the drop down list.

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Bruno

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03 Jan 2008 11:29 AM
Steve, My solution seems actually to work. Don't know if it's the best way but looks not so bad to me as it says that the user who runs ASP.NET can write in _users\ folder (BTW I had to give that permission to _outbox\ too in order to be able to send en email). What I don't know is why it's 'NETWORK SERVICE' and not ASPNET that I had to set ! Not very important... I don't have Active Directory on my server so my permissions set is slightly different. It's a server i'am building so it will change... Well, thank again you for your time!

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04 Jan 2008 03:19 AM
Bruno, I did a little research. It appears that the ASP.NET account is from IIS 5. In IIS 6 it uses Network Service Account. What account is your web application pool using? Mine is Network Service. There is more on the subject here: IIS and Built-in Accounts (IIS 6.0) and here: Applications are denied access to resources (IIS 6.0) If you notice in my list of Permissions, I still have ASP.NET account listed, that is a carry over from when I had IIS 5. Even though Win2003 was a clean install, when I set up my INETPUB folder, I defined a set of user permissions that propagate to the sub folders. I just copied what I had on my previous install, dating back to the NT4 days.

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04 Jan 2008 03:49 AM
Hi Steve, You know, I'm quite knew as a server admin and I have a few difficulties into following you... I am more a developper. Actually I'm very pleased because I'm learning a lot! Anyway, I checked and my Web application pool is using Network service too. This explains that! One thing more I even didn't know... BTW I'm not very confident with the way of organizing my web applications and splitting them between different pools... I still have a lot to read before being "the perfect little admin" I'll have a look at once at yours URLs. Seems highly interesting.

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04 Jan 2008 08:50 AM
Bruno, I'm not sure what type of web apps you run, but your probably better off just using 1 pool instead of multiple ones. From what I have read, it will use memory more efficiently. If you use multiple pools for different apps, then each app is going to take a chunk of memory. If I understood what I read. Of course I can't remember where I read it. If I am loosing you, just tell me where, and I will better explain, if I can. I am by no means an expert. I dabble a lot, and manange to keep my servers running an this web site up.

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04 Jan 2008 04:39 PM
From what I understand, several pools can prevent you from breaking down all your sites with a buggy one. I reckon it's highly interesting when you run several sites from several companies in the same iis, but in my case all sites are in my domain. I think I'll keep at least a pool as a "sand box" for my own developments... My present issue is to determine how to organize my web applications between web sites and virtual directories. I suppose the former purpose of a web site is to allow people access it with domain or ports or - more interesting to me - hosts. I mean I will appreciate to access my HTML web site with the URL http://www.mydomain and my WebMail site with http://mail.mydomain for instance. I'll see if I can do it with my DNS. To me all that stuff is just a matter of organizing, isn't it? (as far as all my sites belong to my domain). Well, all that conversation led us far away from the former purpose...

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04 Jan 2008 09:02 PM
You could probably do it with Host Headers in the IIS config. For Example, This site runs in its own web root (X:\INETPUB\ARGOSTUFF). (Host Header: argostuff.com and http://webmail.argostuff.com\webmail it" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">http://webmail.argostuff.com\webmail it will load the webmail log on page. If a user were to just use http://webmail.argostuff.com\ normanally you would get an error, but I created a default.aspx page that redirects the request tot he webmail virtual directory. By setting it up this way, I can keep my DNN site separate from my webmail site but still use the same domain name, and unlike the origanal Win32 version of ArGo, no need to use another port since they both run under IIS on the same machine.

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11 Feb 2008 07:05 PM
Hi guys Just a quick message to say having upgraded to the .NET version, I was getting that error. Setting the write permission on the ArgoMail .net folder worked for me. I did it on the parent, just to make sure it filtered down to any subfolders that needed it. Thanks for the very useful thread! Dan

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11 Feb 2008 08:51 PM
Dan, Thanks for the info.. Strange though. I never made any any permissions changes to my Web interface. However I did need to use the impersonation setting in the web config. I also run 2 DC's with Active Directory. I also have my web interface on 1 server and the Mail Server on another server.

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